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Foundation Three- January 2019
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The threshold experience for me was interesting because I don’t feel that I exactly trusted that it would work or I would even have an experience at all. The specific threshold experience I had was some anger and fear and I build a structure that resembled a person and then I destroyed it. I felt like I wanted to share what the experience was because it wasn’t the most comfortable thing I have done, and it made me thing that coaching and working on oneself is not always comfortable. We may have a client that really need to be pushed or motivated to “DO SOMETHING” whatever it may be. There also has to be a lot of care that goes into coaching out of the threshold because it is a very volatile time for the client with a lot of emotions floating and formulating. I feel that in my threshold instance nature played the simple role of providing what I needed and provided and open non confining space. The core competencies that I feel are essential to practice in the threshold are creating awareness, active listening, and coaching presence.
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Hey Ben this is a great insight that I hope everyone in the cohort reads about regarding Threshold experience. Most of the time the conscious experience of the Deeper Need is an exciting and expansive experience for the client, but Deeper Need also ties to connecting and dropping into the “unknown”. Stepping out of the comfort zone or into a space within yourself that can seem a bit scary and uncomfortable. And being aware of this as a coach is crucial! The energy and baseline shift when a person is really dropping into the Threshold experience can be intense and profound. And nature is so good at holding the space for whatever energy we need to release and nature is always inviting us to come back to a place of peace and calmness in our baseline. When we are ready.
So sharing this insight to your experience is so important to be aware of so that we can really hold safe space for our clients. The more energy and intention that is brought into the Threshold experience, the more we must be aware and attentive as coaches to our clients energy change. This is part of the Deep Listening and Coaching Presence within the Core Competencies and this is a learning experience as coaches that can take time to understand and be prepared for. Thanks for sharing Ben!
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Hey Ben. I loved reading your post because I feel like something I need to work on is how to understand how others experience nature and even their own nature. I know from my office experience everyone are at various places with comfort regarding just feelings/emotions/sensations. But I have always been so comfortable in nature that I feel I have to really remember to be in a much bigger container when thinking about taking others out into nature. Here, they will be facing not only emotions and sensations that they may not understand or feel at all comfortable feeling-plus, are dealing with their whole understanding of and relationship to nature. I so appreciate you articulating some of that for me, and helping me to really think about needing to be more mindful and aware of how we are all at different places with so many things and how to be really deep means being uncomfortable no matter what.
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I am happy to start off with this kick-off question because my coach for my threshold experience was Ben F., and so I get to post right after him! What fun. During my threshold experience I felt a lot of sensations that made me feel like I was connecting to my nature and to the nature of the wilderness around my coach and me. I felt pulled to go in certain directions and then when I thought “aha, I know where I am going!” and went where I thought I was to be, it turned out to feel “not right”. My coach just kept asking, “what is coming up for you?”, which really helped me follow my inner sensations. With that support, and when I just followed my heart I arrived at a place that seemed “right”, and a deer ran through, practically on the spot. So it seemed as if I was receiving a lot of support from nature, the nature of coaching, and from my coach. After I found the “right” place, I was able to do part of an honoring ceremony I felt coming on me, inviting my vision council to become a more felt experience for myself. My coach used very few verbal coaching competencies throughout the entire experience, which was actually great because I would have otherwise gone into my head too much, and besides my experience wasn’t really about him at that point anyway. So one coaching competency that isn’t mentioned, but maybe (?) is one, is: Get out of the way! Or, sort of: Coaching presence only, needed.
In my mind, I have a figure of a triangle: me-coach-wilderness, and I am drawing lines between us with each one having a direct relationship to each of the others, and then a circle around us all. And that does a pretty good job of depicting my threshold experience in a manner that I think I want to hold as a coach.
What I notice, however, is that my experience happened mostly close to a WITH nature and WITH coach experience, and that may not be available to the people I coach. In my office, I feel I have a large enough emotional container to hold people who are even in an AT experience with me. I am not as patient with people in the out-of-doors, who are having an IN experience with nature. And when combining personal work with nature, I struggle to have enough patience for people who are in a TO experience with nature.
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Lisa,
I have to say being your coach for this experience was a big part of our first intensive for me. It really gave me a lot of meaning and direction as a coach. I am so glad I got to be there for it. Thank you
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Foundation Three *Initial Post*
As a client in the threshold, I felt a bit like I was in a dream that I let happen. I was aware of my normal thinking process, but I also let myself be drawn to places. It was as if I was tuned into an internal compass that’s always there, but I don’t sense it very often. When this compass is sensed, I feel as though I’m in a dialogue with nature—that we’re speaking some unspoken language. When I’m in this place of quiet mind, I can ‘hear’ nature speak to me. Is it my own voice that I am ‘hearing’? Or maybe my subconscious? Or is it really Nature—and a kind of Collective Unconscious? Or is it a bit of all of these?Like a water douser who divines for water, I somehow become a conduit for nature and she speak through me, guides me to certain natural objects or experiences I wouldn’t normally seek out or encounter. I lose the normal “I”, and gain the whole world as Self. This is the feeling.
This experience reinforced previous experiences I have had around the potential for encountering the sacred, or other-worldly, when a client is in the threshold, and how important it is for me to first have a sense of the power of this in myself, to have experienced and internalized it for myself. This is part of what I think of as Deep Listening, and really ‘listening to nature. ’ I realize in these moments how nature can mirror what’s happening for the client, and how a 50-50 relationship allows the threshold session to almost guide itself in a very strange and powerful way. And yet, I need to be aware as a coach of ‘worldly’ stuff like where we are in the process, is the action relevant to the deeper need, client safety, session timing, weather, etc.
The more time I spend in nature seeking and experiencing this level of deep connection and dialogue with nature, the more I can sense what a client is maybe experiencing, and what they might benefit from as the process unfolds. Is it a period of silence, a nudge, and suggestion of moving, or just sitting for a while? The more I can listen to nature “out there”, the more I’m in tune with my own—and my client’s—deep inner nature.
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Sandy, I am hearing a real deep sense of awareness toward the balance and dance of the Threshold experience. It’s that 50-50 mentality. That ability to dance and weave through the Yin-Yang metaphor within yourself and your client. It is this sense of expansive connection with the outside world while also being connected to self and deeper need. It is that dance between having the “head in the clouds” while also being grounded in intention and focus. This is part of the learning experience of becoming a true Nature Connected Coach. To become aware of this dance and dynamic while also being aware of how you show up in that space with nature and with your client. Great stuff!
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Thanks for sharing Sandy! I can relate to your post. It seems that lately I have had to start most of my clients inside and then move outside. When I move outside every single client so far is looking for me to take control and I am definitely having to rely on the 50/50 and convincing them to lead the way before we go into threshold.
To me, the 50/50 has a lot of trust built into it meaning that my own sense of the place and my relationship with it are everything. For example, I have actually been seeing clients at my house lately. We start inside the office or in the barn, then we move outside when/if we get to threshold. Since I have a strong sense of place here and grounding then I have found that my questions towards the client seem to be different compared to the local parks and state forest lands where I also have sessions at. Its sort of hard to explain but I tend to be able to feel and work with more powerful energies at the house and surrounding woods than in the neighboring parks/forests.
Just thought that was interesting and reflecting and reading from what you just said as it relates to the 50/50 approach.
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Hi Ben,
Thanks for that feedback. I also feel pretty grounded at my place having lived here for 25 winters and wonder how I would do in a place i didn’t know so well. I seem to have a pretty good intuitive feel for the frequency of this place and what it offers clients– and am curious to experiment with places i don’t know so intimately. Would it be easier or harder to let nature have her 50%? Thanks for your post!
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Sandy:
I always love the opportunity to read your posts. You bring such insight and wisdom to the group and I am glad to have been able to experience EBI with you.What an experience it must have been to be able to fully sink into the threshold and allow yourself to hear nature speak to you.
I am reminded how privileged we were to be able to experience our thresholds in the mountains. This was an entirely new environment for me and being there and being able to watch the seasons change was awe inspiring. How fortunate you are to live in such an area where you can interact with Mother Nature and learn from her in such an intimate way.
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Hi. This is still my initial post. somehow I didn’t copy the whole thing when I posted last night.
My second experience in threshold was also just as wonderful, even though I would term the experience as being more in relation TO nature than WITH nature during the experience. With my second experience I was unclear about what would transpire in threshold, and so just went for a wander. Again, my coach kept me focused on what was coming up for me, but I was talking a lot more to my coach the second time, verbalizing back-story and feeling into stuck places. And that worked perfectly as well-sort of like two minds being better than one at that point-with extra input to really help me sense into my experience and then also to help put nature “to work” for me in a way.
So both experiences were fantastic, and even though different the main thing that seemed to be so helpful was the coaching presence and deep listening. In the first the deep listening was a lot more silence and holding space, in the second the deep listening was also meeting me where I was and with more verbal exchanges between us.
I am uncertain where in the competencies the act of holding space for someone is, where “less can be more” resides, where “meeting someone where they are” is actually articulated, but it seems to be incorporated in being flexible, open-minded, attuned, reflective, aware, confident, honest, and genuine. And so it seems to be mostly articulated within the section of deep listening.
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Lisa, sounds like your Threshold experiences as a client gave great insight into the different ways that Coaching Presence and Deep Listening can show up in context to a coaching session. And that these Core Competencies don’t look the same every time. They can be utilized and show up differently. These Core Competencies are not fixed to a specific ideal or use. And as you shared the different styles of use of these Core Competencies can be equally impactful. It’s more important to know what is needed most in the moment for the client. And that is Coaching Presence at it’s finest. That wisdom and awareness of showing up and meeting your client where they are is Coaching Presence at it’s finest! Being aware in the present moment of what is needed, or NOT needed as well, from you is the sign of great Coaching Presence and it sounds like this cohort is already making strides toward this! Woot woot!
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Lisa,
Your mention of holding space and meeting your client where they are are great reminders for me. Going back to the Foundations intensive and this mention was timely. Once again, the invitation to simply hold space, chill out and stop trying so hard. Simply connect with your client where they are. Ah, the power of simplicity.
Thanks for the post!
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Initial Post:
So glad we are talking about the threshold experience…..because honestly I can relate to Ben’s initial post. I too felt like it was awkward at first and had a feeling of like, “oh it’s not going to be that impactful for this person since they are already a coach and have a ton of experience.” But when I really just focused on being curious and deeply listening, then I had some breakthroughs.This is so fascinating to me. In that it is simply just establishing intention and confidentiality at the beginning of a session and showing the client that you are there to be in a co-guided conversation through curiosity and deeply listening to them. During the intensive I found that when I knew the core ICF competencies better, as well as,. the structure of the Severance and Threshold experiences, I found that reading patterns on the landscape came more naturally. My questions came to be much easier.
I think it was Brooke who was my client when this happened (can’t quite remember though). There was a point where I found myself deeply searching for the right questions to ask and it took me out of the moment for a second, but when I slowed down and focuses back on the conversation with just listening to nature/reading the landscape, then the questions just came to me through reflection it back to the client.
So inspiring!
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Ben, I had a similar experience where I felt awkward during the sessions because I am thinking, “Is this authentic right now since we are both practicing the same thing?” I found though, like you, that once I really sat with the ICF competencies I was able to gain a better understanding. Not to mention really hone the skills that are useful for all coaches. I appreciate the fact you really talk about setting the intention and confidentiality. That is so important for establishing the trust that is necessary for a safe space. If we aren’t able to establish any trust people will not want to open up with us. Just like you said, We are there to be a co-guide with them and I have definitely noticed that cannot be done if there is not ground work set in the beginning.
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Ben I completely agree with this. Some times I was too focused on what questions to ask next that it made me not really deeply listen. Once I started to do more pausing and have silent moments, and just letting that moment in nature be, the questions flowed much more naturally. I think as a society we have been taught to be afraid of that silence, “the awkward silence” but really we should be embracing it.
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Ben:
Though I admittedly cannot remember my experience as a coach for the first threshold experience. I can, however, relate to you wanting to ensure that you asked the right questions. Frequently, I would need to pause and collect myself as I tried to have the session be impactful for the client.
I love how you mention that the sessions are co-guided. Both the coach and the client play an integral role in the coaching relationship. It is not the coach’s responsibility to do the work or give advice. And it is not the client’s role to hold back for fear of being too difficult for the coach. But, when you each work together in the session and are equal participants, the session will be more successful.
You are right, when we are able to slow down and allow the experience of being out in nature to help guide us and the client, the session seems to flow more smoothly. Trusting your gut and trusting nature can go a long way.
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Initial Post:
Kick-off Question: Reflect on your experience as a client in the “threshold”. How does that experience inform your coaching and why? How did Nature participate in your process and what does that tell you about coaching others? What ICF core competencies are essential for you to practice and build on to feel confident in that “place” as a coach? This is not a feedback session to your coach, but a self – reflective response
Oh the threshold. The magic-making time. As a client, I have not had an experience similar to this. It really was profound and out of the entire intensive, sticks with me the most. Reflecting on this as a coach, it gets me so excited and eager to get on the land with people. Additionally, it reminds me as a coach at how little we actually have to do. The art of really playing in that dance of coaching and allowing and trusting that the client has everything that they need within. With that, it reinforces how to put the coaching agenda aside and have expectations. As I continue on with clients and experiencing coaching in action, I actually know I am doing my job well when I really have no emotional reaction to how the session went. What I mean by this, is what happens in the sessions is so personally intimate, that it’s nearly impossible to experience and understand the level of inner growth that has been experienced or planted within the client. This, is so refreshing as a coach. To let go of doing it “right” and simply allowing. The idea of the 50/50 is brilliant in this space and perhaps a time we never allow ourselves otherwise – to simply be to see what needs to arise. As a coach, you are simply there to allow that space to be held and offer periodic guidance. I almost view it as a parent-child dynamic. You are allowing your small child to go run wild and have all of the experiences and you sit back and offer them the unspoken safety for them to explore without fear.
I have noticed already where some of the ICF competencies have come more natural to me and some that I will need to work harder at developing. My biggest goal is to work on my powerful questioning. I feel as if it is natural for me to co-create the relationship to establish trust and coaching presence, but the questioning is where I feel the most challenged right now. This will grow of course, with practice, but also with the added effort of taking the time to write down some questions from the various resources that have been provided. Additionally, I am eager to figure out some additional threshold practices I can offer virtually. Because that time is so transformational, always looking for ways to expand there.-
Hi Taylor!
I loved what you said about trusting and playing in the dance of coaching! Gosh, that just seems so right to me. What a great way to put it. And how all the things about deep listening, and 50/50 seem so spot on. I think I understand what you are saying about as a coach somehow being invested in the process and yet not worried about the outcome-that the outcome is for the client and so personal for them. Thank you for your post. It helps me to feel validated and articulated things for me in such a nice way.
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Hi Taylor,
I really appreciate your analogy to the parent-child relationship here–to let the child run free within the bounds of safety–to trust nature to ‘do’ her part with the client. Although we are encouraged to look at the relationship with the client as partnering with equals, as a coach we are kind of like parents–or maybe shepherds?–to our clients at times, especially during threshold.
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I so agree with you Ben – having the initial expectation of getting a profound experience in the threshold was interesting to navigate around!
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Taylor,
I really appreciate everything your post says. It sounds to me like you are truly on the right track and I completely agree with you. We really don’t have to do as much as we may think we do. The 50/50 approach is really where the magic is I think. You can only go so far but let nature take its own approach as well.
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Summary Post:
This module had many insightful moments for me….. one insight for me was that it made me think more in the clients eyes during the threshold experience. During the intensive I felt like my threshold moments weren’t as powerful as I had expected them to be. I was sort of frustrated that I came problems that I thought I had already worked out but when I finally dove deeper I realized that I definitely needed to turn off my logical side of the brain and think of better routines and actual practices to help……But when I was the coach and going through the threshold together with the clients was definitely more impactful for me.
As I continued to run in circles with these confusions I started to realize that both client and coach are in such a relationship, that we are both in a dialogue/process that is much bigger than both of us. This makes me think of a passage from Buzzell & Chalquist – Ecotherapy, they ask “Who are we in service to? Many Therapists might answer that we are in service to the client. But are we not, primarily, in service to our vast self, to this living body, of which we are all part of?”. Meaning that we are part of a living body, a world that is full of life and it truly shapes us as humans….including shaping our threshold experiences.
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Foundation Three *Initial Post*
As a client in the threshold, I felt a bit like I was in a dream that I let happen. I was aware of my normal thinking process, but I also let myself be drawn to places. It was as if I was tuned into an internal compass that’s always there, but I don’t sense it very often. When this compass is sensed, I feel as though I’m in a dialogue with nature—that we’re speaking some unspoken language. When I’m in this place of quiet mind, I can ‘hear’ nature speak to me. Is it my own voice that I am ‘hearing’? Or maybe my subconscious? Or is it really Nature—and a kind of Collective Unconscious? Or is it a bit of all of these?Like a water douser who divines for water, I somehow become a conduit for nature and she speak through me, guides me to certain natural objects or experiences I wouldn’t normally seek out or encounter. I lose the normal “I”, and gain the whole world as Self. This is the feeling.
This experience reinforced previous experiences I have had around the potential for encountering the sacred, or other-worldly, when a client is in the threshold, and how important it is for me to first have a sense of the power of this in myself, to have experienced and internalized it for myself. This is part of what I think of as Deep Listening, and really ‘listening to nature. ’ I realize in these moments how nature can mirror what’s happening for the client, and how a 50-50 relationship allows the threshold session to almost guide itself in a very strange and powerful way. And yet, I need to be aware as a coach of ‘worldly’ stuff like where we are in the process, is the action relevant to the deeper need, client safety, session timing, weather, etc.
The more time I spend in nature seeking and experiencing this level of deep connection and dialogue with nature, the more I can sense what a client is maybe experiencing, and what they might benefit from as the process unfolds. Is it a period of silence, a nudge, and suggestion of moving, or just sitting for a while? The more I can listen to nature “out there”, the more I’m in tune with my own—and my client’s—deep inner nature.
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Sandy,
I love your parallel between your listening to nature to listening to your client. It really all does come back to nature as our own guide, doesn’t it? I enjoyed listening to your experience in the threshold.
Thank you!
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*Summary Post* Foundation Three-Threshold Experience
For me when thinking about the threshold experience, a lot is coming up with these two phrases: ‘A dance of awareness’, and the old meditation instructions at Naropa ‘Not too tight, not too loose’ Threshold feels like a dance of awareness, as Taylor said, and this implies fully being the dancer, and knowing where I am with my feet in the dance. As the dancer, I’m being carried totally by the music, but not bumping into my partner or others. Not stepping on toes, either…So, a kind of split, or multifaceted awareness is required to be a good dancer with your partner. The ‘not too tight’ phrase keeps coming up for me around holding the experience for others as a guide—to allow the experience to have it’s head, but not to lose control and possibly fall of the horse. The words that come are: skilled, artful, delicate, confident and fluid. Also, tricky! And, when a threshold experience goes not as expected, don’t judge but learn to get right back on the horse and try some more.
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Summary Post
Like I stated in my initial post. Having gone through the threshold experience as the client has given me a lot of insight as to how much care needs to be given when coaching a client through this experience. Care not only when coaching them into but out of as well. There is a lot of energy attached to the threshold experience and I feel that it can be positive as well as negative energy and this makes the planning face that much more crucial.
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Summary Post
This module and reflection on threshold was excellent. I am eager to work with more clients in threshold to continue to gain experience as one single experience is simply nothing like another. As a rather type-A personality when it comes to my work, coaching in a threshold is not only new to me, but freeing as well. After so many years of trying so damn hard to get everything right on my corporate path (say the right thing, make the right move, talk to the right people), it is so refreshing to know THERE IS NO RIGHT WAY! I love just saying that out loud. Let go of expectations and let the magic of the threshold unfold.
Is it Star House time yet? Can’t wait to see you all.
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Ah, the threshold! I really enjoyed reading your individual puzzlings and explanations about what is happening in the threshold, the mystery and connections.
I trust completely that more will arrive for you all, in a very organic manner, through the rest of the training to connect your internal wisdom and “book learning” about how to play (and work) with the threshold. Remember, the threshold is an experience with that which your client wishes to BE-come.
In the competencies hand out, if you look at the NCC Deep Listening section, as Lisa mentioned, Listening to Nature has a few simple summaries. I will mention two here because I think if you only had these two in your back pocket they could help tremendously in a threshold: The guide: 1.) Identifies the ways in which Nature informs and mirrors activity in the coaching process. 2.) Reflects observations of Nature to help client discover direct and metaphorical meaning of nature interactions.
As a guide in the threshold, it can be fun and challenging to listen for (and see) how your client is receiving and interpreting the land and its elements. And as the guide, there is the opportunity to set your own intention to stay open and notice the metaphor in the land as it relates to what your client is seeking or experiencing.
If nothing else, working in the threshold is about trust– trusting your client already has the answers inside of them and these will unfold, trusting that the client’s body-mind knows where to go and what to focus on, and trusting that nature always shows up in the way needed (including you, you beautiful expression of Nature, you). Aaah, relax! and pay attention! in the threshold. 🙂
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So many great insights on the deepest part of the coaching process. The good ol’ Threshold experience. The idea of the 50/50 method, or as Sandy said “not too tight, not too loose”, is such a crucial mindset and intention to practice in this space. I also like to call it the “Sweet Spot”. And how this sweet spot looks for you as coaches is unique to you. And how that shows up inside of your clients is also unique to each client and where they are in their conscious exploration. The ICF Core Competency guidelines for Coaching Presence and Deep Listening have great context to how to show up in this space, but exploring what this “sweet spot” looks like and feels like inside of you is part of the journey through the NCC program.
I look forward to witnessing and hearing about your experiences in the Threshold as both coaches and clients. This is where transformation happens. The conscious dive into a new way of being. And you have all shown great wisdom and enthusiasm for stepping into this space as Nature Connected coaches.
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*Intitial Post*
I had a lot of hesitance going into Threshold like many others. I tend to build up walls and not allow myself to be vulnerable to others. I hide behind humor and project onto other things rather than facing myself. Being in a situation where we had to continuously be the client, and open up to everyone, I decided that I just had to go with it and talk about things I never speak about. Certain subjects in my life that people know exist but kind of lay dormant, I let come to the surface and discuss more openly. When entering nature and discussing these subjects, I felt more open to BEING open. Something about the natural setting just let things flow easier than sitting in a room. I did some wandering in threshold and just having that time, using my energy, walking in the snow, taking moments to really reflect on myself and think about what I was saying seemed so much more helpful than being face to face with my Coach. For me personally, it could have to do with eye contact, some times I struggle with opening up face to face, but having my coach by my side, or following in my tracks, really put a different perspective on it for me.
I think that this will be extremely helpful for clients because knowing how guarded I am, I think that the natural setting can open them up as well. To a point where maybe they didn’t know existed. In addition to the natural setting, the sounds of wild life, and weather also helps to soothe the soul. That’s beneficial when you are trying to really reach that deeper need. Then allowing your client to take nature into their own hands and mind and releasing whatever they need to release on their own terms is a beautiful thing to help someone be able to achieve.
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MJ, thank you so much for sharing this. I find it inspirational how you talk about facing that fear and being vulnerable with all of us. What you describe really hits home for me. Allowing Nature to really work with us in that 50/50 place of connection. It sounds like the presence of the coach is very important for you to be able to open up and allow you to really BE with yourself/nature. I love how aware you are about yourself, and found that what you said here really resonated with me! Can’t wait to see you and everyone else in a couple weeks!
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Initial Post
As a client In the Threshold I gained a profound appreciation for the 50/50 relationship with nature. When I was the client, I was able to really shift my perception with regards to my deeper need. While at the same time allowing Nature to help facilitate that perceptual change in the process. As a coach I am able to take that experience and have a better understanding when I work with others. The understanding that as a client I was trusting in the process, and as a coach I hope to provide the necessary space to allow for the client to also feel that safe space to allow Nature to really work with all of us. Another aspect of importance I found is the comfort level. I am usually very open to talking about a plethora of topics, and have no problem being vulnerable. When I was in the setting as a client and really sharing, I noticed that safe space held by everyone, which could also be why it was so easy for me to open up and be vulnerable during the intensive. That example of all of you holding that space showed me how important it was for myself to really dedicate the awareness and trust to set up that space as well.
As a coach I feel I am really utilizing the coaching presence competency, as well as establishing trust and intimacy with the client. When I am able to really hold that container and presence to be fully present and adaptable with the client then I feel I will be in a more advantageous space to allow for that transformational peak in baseline. The trust must be there in order for the client to have that experience as well. No matter how present I am, if the client is not in a position where they are comfortable, how can I expect them to be fully engaged in a supportive environment.-
Cory,
Great post! You talk about intimacy and trust and how can you move forward with a client if that comfort level isn’t there. That’s something that’s really important to me as well. I want to make sure my clients know I am holding that space for them, that this is all confidential and I am here to help them navigate. I think the nature kind of helps the client to trust in us because we ARE already connected to nature. I think that’s something most strive to do, so hopefully just having that ability to recognize our connection to nature can also help inspire them to trust us.
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